Some reasons why Bush doesn't want you to know about Global warming
Read below, and maybe you'll start to see why it is the GWBush keeps working so hard to keep his country in the dark about "global warming" . Funny how other countries know, and are acting!
"Although George Herbert Walker Bush began his career in the oil industry, he eventually served as a congressman, head of the Republican National Committee, ambassador to the United Nations, director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and vice president and president of the United States."
At the age of two, Bush moved with his parents from Connecticut to Odessa, Texas, where his father embarked on a career in the petroleum business. At Yale, Bush was considered an average student. During Bush€™s time at Yale, college students all over the country began to hold protests about a variety of issues, including protests against U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War (1959-1975). Bush was uncomfortable with the growth of the student protest movement, and he generally refrained from participating in campus politics. Like his father, he first entered the oil industry as a €œlandman,€ someone who helps organize oil-drilling ventures by bringing together geologists, property owners, and investors. In this position, Bush searched property records, studied geological reports, and negotiated deals. His Democratic opponent attacked Bush as an outsider and a newcomer who did not understand the needs of voters in Texas. Bush captured the financial and political support of the oil industry, but his opponent won the support of rural and agricultural voters.
After his loss, Bush resumed his career in the oil industry, starting a series of small, independent oil-exploration companies, including Arbusto Energy Inc.
Critics said he neglected environmental concerns, children€™s health insurance, and rising poverty. Under his watch, Texas continued to rank near the bottom of statistical evaluations of the environment, children€™s health insurance, and childhood hunger."
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I think he is bathing in a ...
I think he is bathing in a tub of oil right now
Yep, I'm sorry!!! I do ...
Yep, I'm sorry!!! I do take all the blame for starting them up on this topic again! Me and my big mouth! Now they'll be discussing this until the earth freezes over. Har har, 'scuse the joke.
You suckered me in again ...
You suckered me in again Paula. This lunacy drives me nuts.
Much of what you said cannot be substantiated. Bush haters either make things up or take things out of context and the useful idiots of the world like yourself take the bait and run with it.
What if I said that the news media knew about the upcoming attack on the twin towers but remained silent because they needed some good stories to improve ratings.
Viewership was dropping and right after 9/11 there were tons of new viewers glued
to their TVs. Their ploy worked.
Now that isn't really a true story but it is plausible just as your rant on Bush is, but plausibility is far removed from being truth. Get real. If I had any hair, I would tear it out.
What does it take for some people to just mature and deal with facts and not emotion?
I think it was Stalin who coined the phrase "usefull idiots" when it came to the peacenicks.
Wonder what a usefull idiot looks like? Grab a mirror!
That info I posted about ...
That info I posted about Bush was taken from his biography. Next??!! I'm trying to get you to see why he doesn't want any fossil fuels getting any negative press, or why he LOVES when people idle their cars and waste fuel. HE GETS RICHER! You die! He doesn't care!
Sorry, but what I quoted is all true. Are you telling me he isn't affiliated with oil? That his family didn't get rich from oil? Tell me another one. You can't argue with facts. Read his biography.
I'm starting to hear that ...
I'm starting to hear that song from the South Park movie.... "Blame Canada..... Blame Canda....." Maybe those guys were on to something!
Calted, I don't know why people can't leave emotion out of things and just look at facts. Who cares if you like someone or agree with their past/present? It doesn't change facts. Facts like how in 1800-1870 the CO2 in the atmosphere measure 290ppm. Facts like the polar ice caps on Mars melting. Facts like the cycles that are documented about this type of thing happening in the past, over and over again. You can't have an ice age without having the opposite - kinda like yin and yang....
People need to stop trying to make their own facts, and start facing reality!
HEY PAULA - the more ...
HEY PAULA -
the more gas you buy, and the higher the oil prices go - the more money I make too. I get a PFD check!!! Oh no, I'm the bad guy now too aren't I?? Just for living in the state that the oil comes from and getting a cut of the profits from the oil companies makes me a bad guy!!!
AKsnowbunnie, glad you're ...
AKsnowbunnie, glad you're there and I'm not totally alone in this. Thanks for chiming in!
As for you Paula, I don't know what it takes to reach you. I really try and think of logical, reasonable responses but they don't make a dent. You're reading from some imbecile's handbook. Drop the stupid book and think for yourself for a change.
To reply to your subsequent post, how do you know he loves when people idle their cars and waste gas. What a moronic statement unless of course you have a direct quote from him. How the hell do you know what he loves. It's a direct quote you said. From him? I doubt it. It's a direct quote from the imbecile playbook!
Didn't my example with the news media make any sense to you? Or did you even bother to read it?
As low an opinion as I have about our major news media, I would be as dumb as you if I really believed that the news media would stoop so low as to remain silent about an upcoming attack just to increase their viewership and improve their ratings. Better ratings = higher advertising rates and more income. I'm really in awe as to how seemingly intelligent people filter data to suit their preconceived notions.
I really don't get it.
WalterTH3rd, good stuff ...
WalterTH3rd, good stuff but it's way over her head.
Oh yes, I've heard of the ...
Oh yes, I've heard of the NRSP. They are full of crap. Gee, I wonder who is behind them?
They constantly harp about how being environmentally friendly will RUIN the economy. Land Sakes! You have to be careful, Walter, which groups suck you in!
Your example of the news ...
Your example of the news media doesn't matter to me Calted. Why would an analogy you made up, make any difference as to the fact that George Bush is pro fossil fuels and weak on the environment as taken from his own biography?
You can think about how the tobacco companies lied about cigarettes being addictive and the govt at the time supported them because cigarettes made money? Same thing going on here with oil and the environment. Do you honestly think when there are millions to be made, that Exxon mobil and George Bush are gonna let you find out that you might be in trouble? I made the statement that "he loves when you idle your car" simply to point out that George Bush is all for burning fossil fuels, and why wouldn't he be? Can you dispute that? I can prove to you that Exxon mobil and other giant oil companies paid science teachers millions not to teach their students about global warming.
Explain this then you ...
Explain this then you fossils - Why can you get a tax credit for the FULL price of a $60,000 Hummer that gobbles gas like a gluttonous monster (about 15 mpg on the highway IF you're lucky) and pollutes our air all to hell but you can't get more than about $1,500 for the best mileage car there ever was, the 60 mpg Prius.
Here's a hint - It's a FEDERAL tax credit. Bush and his republican cronies for the past 6 years are deliberately destroying this planet. There's nothing else to say about it other than when they go we will be left with one enormous mess to clean up. It will take decades and decades to even begin to undo the damage they've done.
yep let's just blame Bush, ...
yep let's just blame Bush, it's all his fault, he has single handedly destroyed this planet. Let's forget about all the big company's out there that are polluting the air and water, and have been doing so for more then 6 yrs. DAMN you Bush!
Paula, you're getting to a ...
Paula, you're getting to a point where you're a satire of yourself. Eventually people will get bored with you and just ignore you.
TGIX, to quote Jesse ...
TGIX, to quote Jesse Jackson, yo can't think straight when yo ass is full o hate. Well, it sounds like something he might have said. One thing for sure, you, more than the others belong on this site. The definition for Rant (straight out of my Funk & Wagnalls) is "to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently, talk in a wild or vehement way; rave. You sure fit the description.
You made comments about tax credits. Admittedly, I'm not a tax expert so it would be foolish on my part to argue that point but I go by common sense as well as knowledge and your rant doesn't make sense. It's either totally false (you got it out of a book by Noam Chomsky) or it's out of context. You're implying that the government gives people $60,000 Tax credits for hummers? Hell, I'll get one for myself. Something's rotten in Denmark, you know what I mean?
Point me to an IRS webpage that explains that Tax credit that you're implying George Bush and a few cronies wrote into tax law all by themselves who incidentally according to you, are trying to destroy the planet they themselves and their families are living on.
You really need a good dose of Dennis Prager!
TGIX--- I also want to ...
TGIX--- I also want to know where you got your info on the tax credit for Hummers. I walked around a lot of dealerships looking for a new car. What I did SEE in person was that Hummers and certain SUVs had a gas guzzler tax applied to them.
Chubbymouse - you want a ...
Chubbymouse - you want a source? Here's one of MANY. This is common knowledge. You can get upe to $110,000 tax break on any SUV as long as it weighs enough. This is the most absurd tax breaks EVER. It's a Bush and repugnantcan one though so it should surprise anyone. It sure didn't surprise me. It' just proves once more where their priorities lie. They don't care about conserving, although they lie and say they do once every blue moon. They don't care about pollution. They just care about themselves.
http://www.taxpayer.net/TCS/whitepapers/SUVtaxbreak.htm
calted2 - you are a liar. ...
calted2 - you are a liar. I did not make this up or take it out of context or get it from your source you named. Those are false accusations. You are a liar.
This is from the Congress and from the IRS
Reference: accelerated depreciation schedules under IRC section 179
and the congressional Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 that Bush signed into law.
You owe me an apology.
By the way calted2, go buy ...
By the way calted2, go buy your Hummer - I doubt that you'd qualify for much of the tax credit. You would first have to be so wealthy that your income taxes were high enough. You might get a couple of thousand or even ten or twenty thousand (which is still pathetic, there should be none at all for buying a bohemoth gas guzzler polluter). To qualify for the $60k or full $110k, you would have to have an income tax liability that large.
And your reasoning that getting a free Hummer is a good reason to drive one is just pitiful too. It's destructive. It is anti American, unpatriotic. That's a term Bush likes to use. Well, turnabout is fair play. To rely more on the Arab oil is absolutely unpatriotic. To pollute so much more than necessary, just to be selfish, is idiotic.
Well Walter, should it ...
Well Walter, should it have EVER been that way? It seems to me it is the crime of the century against common sense and UNpatriotic to the hilt. Can you agree with that?
And why should there be ANY tax credit for Hummers and other monster size SUV's? How can you reconcile that it is soooo much larger, larger at all even for that matter, than the tax credit for a Prius?
I'm really interested in your answers Walter and others. Please explain how any of these Bush and repugnantcan't policies make any sense whatsoever.
Walter??? Are you feeling ...
Walter??? Are you feeling OK? I asked a few simple questions and you tried to dodge or deflect by saying "No, that wasn't the question." Then you went on a huge ramble about things that are UNRELATED to the questions I asked.
Your reply is strange to say the least. It tells me you are afraid of my questions or drunk or something. Are you OK? Really. I'm serious.
Oh, and Walter, it sure ...
Oh, and Walter, it sure does matter which party is in charge. FEMA was not destroyed until Bush. The National Guard was not decimated here in the U.S. before Bush. HE did that along with his repugnantCAN'T cronies. HE is the reason New Orleans (and other areas in LA and MO) faired so poorly during the disasters. But you were asked about tax cuts for the ultra rich so they can drive FREE Hummers and other 3 TON bohemoth Gas Guzzling ENORMOUSLY polluting monster SUVs on the backs of the rest of us tax payers who have to foot the bill. That is taxation of the poor to give to the rich - REVERSE ROBIN HOOD. Rob the poor to give to the rich. That's Bush and the Repugs. You were asked about that. Can you stay on topic? I want to know just ONE reason why the poor and middle class should fund this insane giveaway to the rich with OUR tax money?
OK, so we should allow ...
OK, so we should allow taxpaying middle class and poor to subsidize the ultra rich by giving them free ENORMOUS gas guzzling polluters because New Orleans wasn't handled properly and you actually believe you can blame FEMA (that's the FEDERAL Emergency Management) on local democrats? The Guard is being sent abroad by BUSH and you want to blame local Governors? That's not going to fly Walter. It doesn't hold water. We know what happens to anyone who stands up to Bush. He rules with a BIG STICK and smashes anyone who doesn't kiss his ass. No, BUSH is to blame and no one believes anything he says anymore. If you do, and you're one of those so badly affected in LA, than you have a much more serious problem than I suggested. Drinking any amount doesn't even make people that stupid.
I'd still like to know ...
I'd still like to know even ONE reason why those of us not making 6 figure incomes and higher (hundreds of thousands, or millions of dollars per year) should be forced by our government to subsidize those who do by paying even a single cent (let alone $25-$110,000) for THEIR Gigantic Gas Guzzling Polluting Urban Assault Vehicles. That's UNPATRIOTIC and goes against ALL Common Sense.
Answer that.
All I'm hearing so far is ...
All I'm hearing so far is lame excuses and deflection - Oh so typical repugnantcan't diatribe.
You can't possibly be saying that our addiction to oil (which Bush himself admitted, he just doesn't actually do anything about it) isn't funding the terrorist arabs??? Could you really be that deluded? Or are you just being dishonest? Which is it?
And the levies have nothing to do with the taxes the poor and middle class have been forced to pay, forced by Bush and his repugnantcan't cronies, to subsidize their ultra rich people's 3 ton gas guzzling polluting UAV's (urban assault vehicles). If you can't understand that, you are hopeless.
You're STILL avoiding the ...
You're STILL avoiding the question.
I'm just looking for ONE reason why those of us not making 6 figure incomes and higher (hundreds of thousands, or millions of dollars per year) should be forced by our government to subsidize those who do by paying even a single cent (let alone $25-$110,000) for THEIR Gigantic Gas Guzzling Polluting Urban Assault Vehicles.
Utterly hopeless. You did ...
Utterly hopeless. You did not answer the question given many opportunities. Utterly hopeless.
It's been like trying to teach a pig to sing just to get a straight answer.
I'm done here.
I know I said I'm done. ...
I know I said I'm done. And this will be my final statement on this matter.
The topic was about global warming and Bush.
You originally posted some trash that supposedly says the global warming doesn't exist. So you did know the topic Walter.
I posted about tax giveaways to the very rich on the backs of the poor and middle class so the ultra rich could drive FREE monsters that guzzle gas and pollute. That had to do with the global warming. You responded with talk about levies that have nothing to do with the global warming. Someone tried to say there weren't any tax giveaways to the rich for their giant gas guzzlers. I proved there are. Then you said they were smaller now (of course they were much worse before and are still obscene) as if that wasn't so bad. Then you say you're not for any such subsidies for any car, which would include the HIGH mileage, MUCH CLEANER Prius etc.
You don't sound like a very nice personto me. In my opinion (and maybe this is really crazy) nice people are those who care, those who care about other people and the air we all have to breathe. You also sound confused. Levies don't pollute or cause the global warming. I'm not going to say I'm sorry for saying this either. Some things just have to be said and I'm not going to beat around the bush when someone fouls the air that I and my family and friends have to breath just so they can drive some enormous hog of a vehicle. And if you think there isn't enough leg room in anything smaller you haven't looked around enough. I can show you MANY decent mileage vehicles with plenty of leg room. I'm 6' tall and fit in good sized Toyotas and Hyundais and other cars and even SUVs that get as much as 30 pmg combined highway and city with plenty of safety - rated better than Many of the much larger SUV's.
Now I'm done.
Man, you guys really got ...
Man, you guys really got into it this weekend, wish I was around for it. Unfortunately I was too busy spending $78 to fill my gas guzzling van... You should see how much that puts into the atmosphere, I'm melting the glaciers alone, hahaha.
So I saw NOVA this weekend - and they were at Kilamanjaro (sp). They hike up to the top, check out the volcano, find active furmoles, and then they go look at the glacier. They started on this little rant about global warming melting the glaciers. HELLO - the glacier is on top of an ACTIVE VOLCANO, global warming isn't doing anything to it - the magma that is 4' under the surface is what's melting it!
People are such idiot for buying into global warming. Those are the people that should not be allowed to reproduce. They should be fixed so that the future generations will not have to deal with such idiot extremists!
Gobal warming exists. And ...
Gobal warming exists. And as I've said before, Al Gore just backed up what we already know here. I am living global warming so no one can tell me it isn't happening. I care about people bottom line, because people live on the planet. Therefore we need the planet and we need it in good shape to have a quality of life. Is it quality of life to have smog hovering over cities, and traffic jams that people sit in for hours on their way home from and to work? Is it quality of life that so many children are being diagnosed with asthma? That children and elderly are dying in summer, that beaches have to be closed because of pollution? No one can say that man has not had a negative effect on our climate and our planet. None of those things would be happening naturally. NONE. No one can prove to me that the planet would be in the shape it's in whether man existed or not.
Exactly, Paula. No one can ...
Exactly, Paula. No one can prove what shape the planet would be in if we were never here.
1) If we weren't here, who would there be to prove it to? LOL
2) By stating that no one can prove what the condition of the planet would be if we weren't here, you are also pointing out that your argument is no better than ours, as there is equally no proof that we are causing the warming trend. No one is denying that the planet is getting hotter, but there is no way to PROVE WITHOUT A DOUBT what is causing it either way. SO DROP IT ALREADY!
Ummmm..... right now we ...
Ummmm..... right now we are only 100 ppm of CO2 then we were in the early stages of the earth... Found through ancient ice samples.
Global warming does not exist, Al Gore is a fake. People like him should not be allowed to reproduce.
Asthma? Thought that was due to second hand smoke - looks like everyone is pointing fingers, but nobody really knows what's going on.
Dying in summer? Everyone dies, it's a fact of life, the LAST fact of life. Some day some how your time is up and you're done.
*I* will say that man did not have a negative effect, because *I* don't give a crap about anything you say - you listen to Al Gore. PLUS I live by volcanos, right by the ring of fire. I know what mother nature does to herself, and what man does is nothing compared to that.
I second this response.
I second this response.
What I am blaming GBush ...
What I am blaming GBush for is not telling you people about global warming. That's it. I was trying to explain to you why you are being sold a bill of goods that it isn't happening. That's why I brought him up. To explain to you why other countries are getting up and doing something, and your's isn't. Because he doesn't want you to know about it. That's all.
Also, I am simply saying that man has had a negative effect on the environment. So why can you not believe man is affecting global warming? Why is one believable and one not? Yes I can tell you the world would be different without us. Simply by the fact that entire forests would not have been cut down, rivers and lakes would not have been polluted, there would be no automobiles....It is the easiest thing in the world to prove. We know what we have done on this planet, therefore if we did not ever exist those things would not have happened. GET IT??!! All these negative effects we've had contribute to global warming.
Hahahaha, yeah, blame bush ...
Hahahaha, yeah, blame bush for not telling us? How about blame Al Gore for starting another fear tactic!!! How about we sue Al Gore for convincing a few countries that this global warming is caused by humans?
IF we are the cause of global warming by cutting down forests and polluting rivers, WHY THE HECK IS MARS WARMING?
You seem to miss one MAJOR fact - Mars is warming just like Earth - we have nothing up there that would cause it, and cause it on the level that people here claim we have done.