Are we being to harsh?
It has been suggested by some to inject people and lock them away for life. The same poeple that proposed this also were against water boarding. Can any please explain to me the differance in the 2. Why should we torture and infect some American citizens yet capture terrorist and treat them better then American citizens. Can anyone please make me understand this. I am having a hard time shouldn't we treat all people the same? Why would anyone want to violate human rights and inject people and torture them? But then complain about human rights when we capture them on the battlefield and waterboard them to find out information. I condone niether but I would really like to know.
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I don't know about anyone ...
I don't know about anyone being too harsh but you are being too dishonest.
Once again, my trouble with torture is when it is used in attempt to extract confessions from suspects. YOU however, continue to try and twist that into being the same thing as terrorists. Sick people do that to try and prove their point. They basically lie.
Don't lie. It's not nice.
It is strange, but it ...
It is strange, but it seems as though when someone has their life taken from them immediately, it is more appealing for us than to have them around much longer. It all boils down to finding an "immadiate" means of dealing with them. The answer, usually death. "They go, and the suffering leaves with them." as the saying goes.
As for waterboarding enemy combatants, I do not like the idea myself, but the enemies that the soldiers come into contact with are usually the "loyal til death" kind, which mean that they will not go down fighting easily. In order to extract the necessary information from these kinds of guys, a simple "sit down and let's talk a little bit" discussion just won't do. Sometimes, involving some pain will get them to talk. It also sends a message to any more just like them: "This will happen to you if you do not come clean!". It can be a scary, effective message, especially if the one who is undergoing the process is someone for you have known for quite a long time.
Both cases are a violation of human rights, and deserved to be treated as such. I am for just locking that person away for life, without any further harm comming upon them. Even when we capture an enemy, I believe that they should be given time to come clean when ready, not tortured.
Whatever happened to the Geneva Convention when you need it?
As afraid as I am to say ...
As afraid as I am to say so...I hear what TGIX is saying. He's saying he does not support the torturing of a SUSPECT. However he's all for whacking the guilty. Until a person is adjudicated as guilty we should be reserved in what we do to them. I do NOT however, agree that little insignificant details and oversights of NO bearing on the case, should establish one as not guilty. There have been way too many cases over the years where crafty lawyers basically "cheat" there way, by finding loopholes, into letting a child rapist walk. As I see it when guilt is obvious, waste 'em right away. Screw giving the soulless defense attorney an opportunity to find that loophole and let a sicky walk.
Geneva Convention or not SOME form of torture has been used by this country as well as every other country on the planet since the very first 2 countries existed to pry information from enemies and threats. We use it now,we used it during the first gulf war, we used in Panama, we used in Grenada, etc etc etc. It's NOT going away. Not here,not anywhere.
Capitol punishment doesn't ...
Capitol punishment doesn't work, states that have it tend to have higher crime rates than states that don't. I do think that we should execute only the wost of the worst (serial killers, serial rapists) who can nver be rehabilitated.
there is no black and ...
there is no black and white when it comes to torture, only gray areas, IMO, you can't say it's ok for this and not for that cuz every situation is different. it may work for certain people and certain situations and for others it may be considered too extreme. personally, terrorist, I don't give a shit about, do whatever to them, but our own Americans, it's hard to say...maybe like rkinne said, only for the worst of the worst...but then WHO decides that too...???
i feel that torture is ...
i feel that torture is never ok and in a perfect world would never be used. but we don't live in a perfect world do we? we live in a world where people rape & kill children and greedly people (not the gov) used dirty needles on people to save a few bucks.
btw: life in prison can't be compared to waterboarding. the inmates have it pretty darned good. better in fact them a lot of poor people in this country.